current affairs

Ripley · **Ripley**

is there a current affairs area ? Question

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mako · **mako**

Not that I have seen, but we can use this area here...what do you want to discuss? I am game for anything and try to stay abreast to current events. Orc ass

Ripley · **Ripley**

mako · **mako**

Well, I ain’t a Christian and not so very loving towards many people and totally against government controlled health care. I have lived in countries that have such and have seen the abysmal level of health care doled out by their systems and also seen the myriad of new taxes levied by their governments. UK’s health care system is so over burdened that they are actually delivering babies in elevators for lack of delivery rooms and using hallways for wards due to lack of space in the existing wards. France’s health care system consistently goes in the red and has to be bailed out by new taxes levied for just that reason and let’s not even talk about Canada’s system, suffice to say that many of their citizens come down here to pay for operations, procedures and care that they would have had to wait in line for (sometimes for months) under their system. Nope, not for me or mine. I will pay for my insurance and go to the doctor when I deem it necessary and get the procedures that my doctor orders as necessary for my continued health. Our government (Congress and the present administration) are talking 900 billion dollars over a ten year period. I guess no one has bothered to do the math, but that works out to 90 billion dollars a year and with a population of 300 million people that works out to 300 dollars a person per year. Since the average person in the USA spends 1350 dollars a year on medical care, we are about 1050 dollars a year short…what procedures or medications are we going to give up? Then there is the thought of where this 900 billion dollars is going to come from. Well, they have admitted to taking 200 billion from Medicare, which means Grandpaw and Grandmaw will have to do without some of their meds over the next decade. Don’t know about your grandparents, but mine would probably die fairly quickly! Also I wonder why it would be good enough for the American people but not good enough for the President, his family, the Cabinet and their families and Congress and their families. They get totally free, top notch medical care. They don’t even have to belong to the Civil Service Insurance that myself and other civil servants have to subscribe to. No, universal health care is an illusion, just some more smoke and mirrors to bilk the American taxpayer out of more money and more of their freedoms, while making them think they have actually gotten something. I saw a study that showed that the 40 million uninsured Americans was actually a lie. Whether or not, I don’t know, but you have to think…these figures that the administration is bandying about has a basis only in the word of the administration, they give no evidence for the truth of the figures. Sounds an awful lot like certain Christians making claims about their religion! Think about it…the present Administration has not kept one promise they made during the campaign yet, why should we expect them to be telling the truth about anything yet…We just have another George Bush of a different color and party…no real change, just more of the same! Orc ass

mako · **mako**

I got carried away and forgot to address the UM question, I don't think they have that power, but then I don't go around there very often. Here is a forum address (be warned it is Brits, Aussies and Yanks working in Korea) of a forum that I hang out at. right now it is a little slow, just waiting for the next batch of Christians. the address is:

http://www.koreabridge.com/forums...3d9574555b8f644712f5c&act=idx

Mako Orc ass

Ripley · **Ripley**

I'm all for health care. all those uninsured getting treated at bloated ER prices picked up by taxes and bloated insurance premiums now as it is actually cost more .

I think however the cost should be sliding scale according to income . The public should have the option between private and government .

My mother worked 22 years for Henry Ford Hospital here in Detroit and I've dated for a long while a doctor. lot's of fat at the top !!
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mako · **mako**

I agree, I am for affordable health but the government has never done anything cheaply…they are complaining that Medicare is missing several millions every year…in the 10s of millions…Do they think that government controlled Universal Health Care would do any better, or would it be 100s of millions lost each year? I am no expert but I think the answer is to trim the fat that you mentioned…I understand Doctors work long hard hours but no other doctorate can make the amount of money that a medical doctor makes except after years of experience. Medical procedures are vastly overpriced as are tests that require extreme technology (CAT scan, etc). Take that tack in the legislations and forget a government health care program. Orc ass

Ripley · **Ripley**

medicare .

I think there would be enough if costs come down. 7 dollars for a aspirin ? That comes from those uninsured . As well as rampant misuse and overcharges from the medical establishment.

My gran has it and is 93 and has in comparison rarely used it . she also has blue cross / blue shield still so far from her 30 years on the line.

the insurance companies make billions in profit. and your right , Doctors far over price their services. Gone are the days they worked for humanitarian reasons and for chickens. Most go to med school for the money. sad.

I think it all needs to go to legislation.
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"The less secure a man is, the more likely he is
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Clint Eastwood

Ripley · **Ripley**

stop the pork to defense spending. black projects . corporate welfare , no bid contracts , ect .......... medical could be paid for NP.
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Clint Eastwood

Ripley · **Ripley**

here's a link to the latest explanation of what the health care bill looks like ... by star traveler

http://www.unexplained-mysteries....8&view=findpost&p=3147757
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vincent · **vincent**

Hello LT
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Ripley · **Ripley**

hellooooooo Vincent !
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"The less secure a man is, the more likely he is
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Ripley · **Ripley**

hey Mako... we can pay for health care with the 1.5 billion a year we are sending Pakistan ! ?!

Pakistanis aren't ready to endorse American friendship despite an eight-year-old anti-terrorism alliance between the countries and a multi-billion-dollar new U.S. aid package.

Clinton put her case directly to the public Friday in televised appearances in Islamabad, the Pakistani capital, fielding angry questions about the alleged activities of U.S. contractor Blackwater in Pakistan, the tough conditions that came with a $1.5 billion-a-year American aid package and alleged U.S. favoritism toward Pakistan's archenemy, India.

One tribesman bluntly told her: "Your presence in the region is not good for peace."

"We are fighting a war that is imposed on us. It's not our war. It is your war," journalist Asma Shirazi told Clinton during the women's meeting. "You had one 9-11. We are having daily 9-11s in Pakistan."

Clinton later told CNN that she was well aware of the "pretty negative situation" in Pakistan before she got here. "I wanted to have these interactions. ... I don't think the way you deal with negative feelings is to pretend they're not there ... or just come with happy talk."

"The problem is that we want American dollars but we, as a country, hate Americans," Abida Hussain, a former Pakistani ambassador to Washington, told McClatchy. "We're not perfect, but we want the Americans to be perfect."

While Pakistanis are opposed to religious extremists, polls have shown a general refusal to acknowledge that al Qaida and its allies are directing the bloodshed.

http://www.truthout.org/1031096
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mako · **mako**

That at least is a start for medical...I can think of a bunch of other places getting aid that we should stop...Israel is one for sure and for that matter 98% of aid should be stopped. Orc ass

Ripley · **Ripley**