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Post subject: Anachronisms-Why Nobody wants to be a Christian
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You know, I realize you guys (Christians) won't accept that the Hebrew word "almah" means simply "young woman" and not virgin. The virgin birth was a prophecy by Isaiah indicating events to happen within his own life, the almah was his wife, referred to as "the Prophetess". Okay, you may twist the Hebrew language as you like, but you can't make a double prophecy. Let's just momentarily disregard the error made by the fourth century wrioters of the n.t. made when they wrote in the Virgin Birth to pleasr the pagan audience the books were intended for. Let's use a little logic, shall we? Some wonderful other examples are things that just wouldn't make sense to a Jew at the time Jesus supposedly lived, died and was resurrected. Let's use some logic. First of all, the Jews have been forbidden to consume any form of blood since the time of Moses. Jesus at the "Last Supper" insists that his followers symbolically, at least, drink his blood. A practicing Jew would have run from that Seder screaming. Let's not forget the mysterious absence of Matzoh at that Seder. Then again, the authors of the n.t. use the term "rabbi" seemingly endless times.
http://www.biblegateway.com/topical/topica...urce=1&tid=4024
| Quote: | Used in addressing Jesus ( John 1:38,49;3:2;6:25)
R. V.) ( John 20:16)
Used in addressing John the Baptist ( John 3:26)
Jesus called "Rabboni," (Mark 10:51)
The title of a Jewish teacher (Matthew 23:7,8; John 3:2)
Ostentatiously used by the Pharisees (Matthew 23:7)
Forbidden by Jesus as a title to his disciples (Matthew 23:8)
R. V (Matthew 26:25,49; Mark 9:5;11:21;14:45; John 4:31;9:2;)
(Literally, the Hebrew word means "my great one.") |
Now, when did this term come into common usage, since it doesn't exist in the Tanach (hebrew scriptures)? When oh when?
Let's go there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbi
| Quote: | The rabbi is not an occupation found in the Torah (i.e the Pentateuch) as such; the first time this word is mentioned is in the Mishnah (most commonly thought to be codified around 200 C.E, that codification often attributed to Rabbi Judah Hanasi).
The more ancient generations had no such titles as Rabban, Ribbi, or Rab , for either the Babylonian sages or the sages in Israel. This is evident from the fact that Hillel I, who came from Babylon, did not have the title Rabban prefixed to his name. Of the prophets, also, who were very eminent, it is simply said, "Haggai the prophet" etc., "Ezra did not come up from Babylon" etc., the title Rabban not being used. Indeed, this title is not met with earlier than the time of the patriarchate.
This title was first used for Rabban Gamaliel the elder, Rabban Simeon his son, and Rabban Johanan ben Zakkai, all of whom were patriarchs or presidents of the Sanhedrin. The title Ribbi too, came into vogue among those who received the laying on of hands at this period, as, for instance, Ribbi Zadok, Ribbi Eliezer ben Jacob, and others, and dates from the time of the disciples of Rabban Johanan ben Zakkai downward. Now the order of these titles is as follows: Ribbi is greater than Rab; Rabban again, is greater than Ribbi; while the simple name is greater than Rabban. Besides the presidents of the Sanhedrin no one is called Rabban. |
So the term was first used after the destruction of the first temple, 40 years after Jesus died, and wasn't into common usage until 200 years later. It was neither used at Jesus's time, nor would his followers have known about it, nor would he have been called it. Not until Yochannan ben Zachai founded the Yeshivah at Javneh were there rabbi's. This is what is called an "anachronism".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronism
| Quote: | An anachronism (from Greek ana, back, and chronos, time) is something that is out of its natural time or appears to be. For example, if a play set during the Roman Republic portrays a person using a computer, the computer is an anachronism.
There are two types of anachronisms, parachronisms and prochronism. Parachronisms are when the assigned date is too late for the appearance of the anachronisms, for instance horse drawn carriages on a freeway. Prochronisms are when the assigned date is too early for the appearance of the anachronsims--George Washington wearing a digital watch, for example. Also an anachronism can be real or fictional and if fictional it can be intentional or accidental. |
In conclusion, there are quite a few anachronisms in the n.t., quite enough to pretty much disregard the whole thing as a forgery, a fraud, something hastily put together hundreds of years later by a group of people ignorant, not only of Jewish customs and the Hebrew Language, but the very time period they were perpetuating the fraud about.
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 Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:54 pm |
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I agree with the blood and body sacrifice of the last supper being anathema to the jewish disciples. At best, it is ritualistic cannabalism in my opinion. As to the matzoh, I had assumed that when the priest speaks of the carpenters son 'breaking bread', that they were referring to the unleavened matzoh.
But those are the least of the issues I have with that form of belief. Just please note that they are MY issues, and I have no wish to disparage or dissuade others from believing as they wish.
As I have been known to say:
If your faith brings you comfort........
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| Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:32 pm |
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With respect to those of the Christian faith.
I have heard priests and pastors say if you think it in your heart then you have commited the sin ~ for example
Drinking the and eating the flesh as in this case isn't this cannabalism in your heart?
Symbolic yes but as with sin it is still in your heart.
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| Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:42 pm |
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Don't get me started on the ridiculous concept of the "Trinity".... Either they worship 3 gods or their god has a bad case of multiple personality disorder! 
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