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Post subject: religion is it a addiction, harder to shake then heroin????
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Often religion reminds me of the drug addict, a slave to a unseen entity, and for some very hard to shake and rules ther lives alienating others to feed the addiction and very self destructive in nature....
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 Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:57 pm |
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When I was young and in sunday school I heard heard a Pastor say anything over done/enjoyed/excessive was a sin....I got kicked out when I asked if that included going to church.
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| Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:16 pm |
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Interesting i was considered not 'catholic' material when i was a kid , for asking too many questions...   |
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| Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:20 pm |
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Any kind of brain washing is hard to kick. The is the whole point of Sunday school is to brain washing.
I could leave my religion behind but my life would be so boring. It is just to much fun. |
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| Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:27 pm |
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Sherri
Your post is an interesting analagy. I have thought of my own religious past as being sort of this habit that I couldn't break. There was this high about it and than these lows and than I hit rock bottom.
I don't really know what kept me coming back. perhaps it was an addiction or like this drug you couldn't get enough of. You felt special because YOU were saved, because YOU understood the love of God and Christ. Although it can be a good thing for others, for me it served only my ego and not my true self.
I left the Catholic Church, than the Synagogue, and than I bounced from one denomination to another looking for that space filler or trying to feed my next high. It wasn't until I left for good and turned inward away from religion that I found a balance and I ironically enough I found my idea of God within me. |
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| Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:04 pm |
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Well... Bertrand Russell did say that "Religion is an opiate to the masses."
Ironic though is that so many addicts and prisoners "find [G-d]" as the way out of their downward spiral.
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| Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:42 am |
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True i have always said trading one addiction for another......  |
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| Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:06 am |
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| Michael wrote: | Ironic though is that so many addicts and prisoners "find [G-d]" as the way out of their downward spiral.
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Many addicts have a predisposition to drug addiction (in one form or another) and they need to replace the void that is created when they try to kick the habit.
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| Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:23 pm |
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"Victim Or The Crime"
Lyrics: Gerrit Graham
Music: Bob Weir
Patience runs out on the junkie
The dark side hires another soul
Did he steal his fate or earn it
Was he force-fed, did he learn it
Whatever happened to his precious self control
Like him I'm tired of trying to heal
This tom-cat heart with which I'm blessed
Is destruction loving's twin
Must I choose to lose or win
Maybe when my turn comes I will have guessed
These are the horns of the dilemma
What truth is proof against all lies
When sacred fails before profane
The wisest man is deemed insane
Even the purest of romantics compromise
What fixation feeds this fever
As the full moon pales and climbs
Am I living truth or rank deceiver
Am I the victim or the crime
Am I the victim or the crime
Am I the victim or the crime
Or the crime
And so I wrestle with the angel
To see who'll reap the seeds I sow
Am I the driver or the driven
Will I be damned to be forgiven
Is there anybody here but me who needs to know
What it is to face this fever
As the full moon pales and climbs
Am I living truth or rank deceiver
Am I the victim or the crime
Am I the victim or the crime
Am I the victim or the crime
Or the crime
Listen to it: http://www.archive.org/download/g...beok.shnf/gd90-05-06d1t07_vbr.mp3
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| Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:39 pm |
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religion really, truly is an addiction. i spent ten years of my life in a christian school, and am still trying to get over the psychological damage it inflicted.
we were taught that any non-christian was evil and bent on corrupting us and breaking our faith.
we were taught that if we didn't do our homework and make good grades, we would be punished by god.
we were taught that sex was an evil, disgusting, dirty thing... and that boys and girls were not to associate with one another unless they had the intention of marrying that other person.
we were taught that it was a sin to kiss someone before the day of your wedding.
we were taught that cursing or doing anything immoral would send us to hell, because god hates sinners.
we were taught that god was a vengeful being, and that if you disobeyed him in any way, you would pay.
i still haven't gotten over half of that...
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| Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:25 am |
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| Quote: | | "The hardest thing for any of us to hear is something we don't agree with." Dr.Leahy "Prince of Darkness" |
I think what compells some people to be so zealously inclined, especially those that go on the offensive / defensive, in religious conversations is the fear of facing this world utterly alone save for living with who one is, warts and all. (Thank the god's for "Compound-W"! 8-) *chucklies* )
Imagine one just as faithfully believing nothing cares!? That everything in this world is and ever shall be, a mystery. Because the sciences can only posit hypothesis and theories. None so bold as to claim absolutes. And yet, every time the sciences imagine they've explained one question, another relative one pop's up and precludes an absolute declaration of fact.
And yet, it's comforting for some to believe. And others that it's just a matter of time before we know it all. Not that we don't act like we do now. ;) |
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| Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:10 pm |
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^That's me, btw. But guest can't edit.
I wanted to add; "Then, there's always this viewpoint to the topic of why religion is difficult to ignore or kick all together:
 
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| Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:26 pm |
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| I love your pics guesty..... How would i be helping or hurting my child encouraging them to beleive in things that aren't real...this addiction frightens me...Rose you make a good point I have a dear friend who told me that religon has crippled her, she has to really struggle to let go of the beleifs that have impeded and influenced her life always for the worse...... |
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| Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:04 am |
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yeah, i still haven't come close to recovering from those ideas... if i disobey those laws that were set into my head for so long, i feel horridly guilty. the first time i kissed my boyfriend i felt AWFUL and almost broke up with him over it... it was horrible. now we've been going out for almost two years, and i'm darn glad i didn't break up with him... but the thought that something so small as that could affect me so deeply... it shouldn't be that way, you know? i should be able to be a human being, make mistakes for myself, and then decide what i think is right, instead of being brainwashed my entire life to the point of nervous disorders (yes, i do believe those are a direct result of such brainwashing) and obsessive tendencies.
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| Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:02 am |
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gosh i agree, you make a great point you should live your life and decide what it means to you.....
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| Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:14 am |
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