Why christianity doesn't work for me

Rhyknow · **Rhyknow**

People always say to me "oh, Jay you oughta try christianity"... I take a look at christianity and I just... don't agree with it... It contradicts itself too much, and is too close minded for me...

For example:

Christians say God created Adam and Eve... and he placed the tree of knowledge there... even though he didn't want A & E to eat from it... Why the heck did he put it there in the first place?

Christians say that Jews will burn in Hell... Jesus was jewish wasn't he?

Christians say that anyone who questions the eternal and universal love of God will burn in Hell... Hmmm... doesn't make sense...

I could go on for hours... if anyone would like to explain to me these little questions i've raised, i'll personally apologize to all christians out there... until then... I'll just say "it's your life..."

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Brutus · **Brutus**

Maybe I misunderstood it, but I thought Adam and Eve was a metaphorical parable. Well, I think the story is mostly about that if temptation and desire overcome you, there will be unfortunate outcomes (which is usually true). Not that God was "setting up" Adam and Eve or anything, those were just things used to prove the point, I think.

Yea, and Jesus was the son of God so I don't think he would burn in hell, he's kinda like the gateway between the new world and the old world.

What about questioning the eternal love of God doesn't make sense to you?

Rhyknow · **Rhyknow**

Well, if God loved us all unconditionally, then it wouldn't matter if we started to question his ways or not... If he truly loved us all, without compromise, then he wouldn't condem us all to a life of suffering and pain in Hell if we started to question his ways, would he?
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Guest · **Guest**

Actually, that's one thing that has really confused me about Christianity. Why would or should God care if we believe in him or not? And I dunno, I think it's more of, there is no point in questioning God's ways. If he does exist than he knows more than you and there is no point in questioning his actions. It's kinda like looped logic though, why should you question someone who loves you unconditionally?

And I dunno... your father can love you and still punish you.

Brutus · **Brutus**

^^ The above was me, sorry I forgot to log in.

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mako · **mako**

Along the same lines, this was posted on the ExChristian website by Kuroikaze. This is a fantastic and intense posting, hope you enjoy it:

Well, I had been throwning around the idea of writing something like this for a while, its still a rought draft, so I'm sure there are some grammer errors and what not, but I really wanted to post this up.

Anyway, here it is:

I am not a Christian. Many people are offended when I say this, quite a few even think that because I am not a believer that I must be a horrible and immoral person. Truly, I am tired of the arguments; I often avoid speaking about my beliefs because I feel like I am constantly on the defensive. Mostly, I’m tired of having judgments and evangelism foisted upon me constantly by all the “well intentioned” Christians out there. I’m sure many of these people think they are helping me by trying to shove their ideas onto me, but it’s generally not welcome.

Part of the problem is that most Christians think that I simply haven’t really analyzed the teachings of the Christian faith, and I simply don’t understand what it’s all about. Obviously if I really understood how perfect and wonderful the Christian religion is I would have joined by now right?

Now, I could engage all Christians in endless debates about history, philosophy, and biblical theology, but ultimately I have found these fairly useless. Most Christians, fundamentalists most of all, are not particularly swayed by reason. They, like most people, have chosen belief on the basis of emotion.

Now, emotion is certainly not a bad thing. Therefore, this being said, I would like to tell a story, if you will indulge me, which illustrates the emotional as well as philosophical reasons I cannot and will not ever again accept the Christian religion as the true faith.

Ok, to get the full effect you must imagine yourself as the main character of this story, if it helps close your eyes and imagine with me.

You are a young woman of about eighteen living in a small Bronze Age village, perhaps two thousand people live there, it is large enough that a city wall was built to protect you from attack, but mostly it just keeps thieves and bandits out.

You married four years ago when you were fourteen, it was a good marriage that your parents arranged, and you married well as your husband is a man of prominence in your village. He is well known as a hunter, and on occasion has been called on to defend the village from bandits. You were a bit worried when you first got married, but your husband has been a good man and has provided for you and the children. Ah yes, I haven’t mentioned the children yet, you have two so far, a three year old girl and a six month old son.

Your husband was gone for three days on a hunt, but returned this morning; you were happy to see him and fixed a large meal out of some of the food he brought back. After you have eaten he goes to talk to some friends about some of the “adventures” he had on his hunt and tells you he will be back later. You gather up your youngest child who is now awake to breast feed him, and your oldest is playing just outside the hut with a doll you made for her out of the remnants of the last dress you made.

As you are sitting here in your quite little life suddenly a shout goes up from a guard on the walls, your husband as well as a few other men run to see what the trouble is, at first you think nothing of it, but eventually you put down your child and walk outside to see what is going on. You find that the men are all running gathering weapons and fortifying the wall, when you ask what is going on you are told that a large armed force is approaching from the distance. You, frightened but you husband comes and tell you that everything will be ok and tells you to take shelter in the hut and keep their children safe.

Within a few hours the force has arrived, they outnumber the fighting men in the village by 5 to 1 and quickly surround the wall. Your village chief asks to speak to the army’s leader to find a way to end this peacefully, but the commander sneers at him and says that he will not deal with infidels, and that their god has given this land to them so they will take and kill all the inhabitance. With that they begin the attack, the villagers hold them for most of the day, but the fighting is harsh, you keep your children in the safety of you hut and pray to your particular god that your husband will be alright.

You hear some people running by mention something about your husband being injured and panic; you leave your children sleeping and go to check if he is safe. Unfortunately, by the time you find him amongst the injured you find him dead. You fall to your knees weeping, but find you have no time to cry because you can see that the army has broken through the front gates. You get up and run in fear, you have to save your children, as you run you see that the army is merciless and unfeeling, the are slaughtering everyone, the old, the young, women, children, they just kill indiscriminately, they are also setting fire to the houses. You weep even more, as you see friends and loved ones killed in front of your eyes, but you keep running, hopping to get to your children and make your escape.

You step into your hut breathless and start to gather up your children, but before you have a chance to leave a soldier steps in, he has the eyes of a fanatic. You hold your son in your arms and grip the hand of your daughter, and beg the man to let you go, but he just curses you and swings his sword at the baby you hold. You instinctually turn to protect your son and the sword cuts into your shoulder. You cry in pain and fall to the floor, but the man just laughs and you and drive the point of his sword through your abdomen. The sword come through you and stabs into your son as well. You cry as you watch him die and feel your own blood running out of your body.

The man just laughs again and turns towards your daughter. “NO, Please!” you try to yell, but blood comes out of your mouth instead. In the back of your mind you hope that they will only take her captive and turn her into a concubine in a few years, but your hopes are in vain, you watch in horror as the soldier cuts off your Childs head and it falls in front of you with a sickening sound. You would cry, but by now you are loosing conciseness, you vaguely smell smoke as they set your hut on fire and then finally, you die from the blood loss.

Now, if you have any humanity in you at all, then this story should horrify you. You may well ask yourself, what horrible inhuman group of people would do such a thing, what kind of tyrant of a god do they worship who would command such horrible atrocities be committed?

The god who ordered this? His name is none other that Yahweh….

11:6 And the LORD said unto Joshua, Be not afraid because of them: for to morrow about this time will I deliver them up all slain before Israel: thou shalt hough their horses, and burn their chariots with fire (11:6-17)
11:7 So Joshua came, and all the people of war with him, against them by the waters of Merom suddenly; and they fell upon them. 11:8 And the LORD delivered them into the hand of Israel, who smote them, and chased them unto great Zidon, and unto Misrephothmaim, and unto the valley of Mizpeh eastward; and they smote them, until they left them none remaining.

8:22 And the other issued out of the city against them; so they were in the midst of Israel, some on this side, and some on that side: and they smote them, so that they let none of them remain or escape.
8:23 And the king of Ai they took alive, and brought him to Joshua. 8:24 And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword. 8:25 And so it was, that all that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand, even all the men of Ai. 8:26 For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai. - Mako Orc ass

El Bandito · **El Bandito**

Well that was...hmmm well said..The Bible does talk a lot about killing etc,...so where is this all forgiving God..?...

Just like the middle east thing going on..."We The USA" are known as "Infedels"...so they show no compassion or mercy...and in turn...the same for the USA...show no mercy...so if there is a God...why all this killing...young men and women at the tip of the sword...No!!! now it's with military action...It just sickens me...

Ok...we have brains...we are able to think logically...why isn't that happening?????

All I can say is...I can't believe in christianity... I have way too many unanswered questions ..but for those who do believe...that is your right...after all you have your own brain and your own faith...who am I to say your way is wrong...

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