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Ok, we all know there's like a million SSRI's and anti-depressants out there, right? And we all know that these majikal little pills offer only relief and no cure right? Well... what if there was a cure?
I am of the opinion that, used therapeutically and with extreme caution, psilocybin may offer the "cure."
That psilocybin binds to seratonin receptor sites when it is in your system is what brings this question to my mind. Also, many counts from different people that have told me "you will never be the same or look at the world in the same way after you eat shrooms" and my own single personal experience causes me to lean this way.
So... what do you folks think? Do you think that a natural cure has been repressed by those that rule us little people (Oh no. They would NEVER do that: sacrifice the lump in their pocket that was made by selling ignorant folk a special concoction that makes life worth living, that is inconceivable).
I know my argument is sketchy. I will try to find and post some information shortly.
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 Thu May 25, 2006 12:12 am |
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i've tried all the drugs... celexa, prozac, zoloft, wellbutrin, etc etc etc. my psychiatrist is an idiot and thinks more drugs are the solution to everything. i'm currently at maximum dosage of zoloft and near-maximum dosage of wellbutrin XL. and it's only helping a minute amount. i really need to try hypnotherapy, or maybe even electroshock therapy... i'll do anything to get away from this misery... really, i will. but everyone seems to think drugs are the solution nowadays... and now my doctor is talking about switching me to effexor.
bloody psychiatrists...
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| Thu May 25, 2006 2:58 am |
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| Rosey may i say get off the drugs the side effects aren't worth it...Hypno therapy would probably be great for you, I had a similar childhood and I was in hypno therapy for a time and it helped alot and its very intensive and fast...i have never went the anti depressent route never......(((hugs))))) |
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| Thu May 25, 2006 5:33 am |
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Ashley hun DON'T let him, I'm on that godawful drug and the side effects are worse than what it's intended to treat!
Quick run-down of my side-effects:
Insomnia
Sleeping too much (go figure lol)
Complete lack of libido - the doc/shrink say this is "normal" - I still say if I was a man they'd class this as unacceptable...
Throwing up if I miss a dose - as soon as 4 hours after a missed dose
Keeping Andy awake all night by kicking/punching/screaming
Night sweats
And the best one of all - I'm still struggling with what it's supposed to treat...
(also, I found out that some people cannot actually come off this drug, they become 100% dependant, which is very scary)
My brother in law was also on it and he ended up refusing to take it. I'm seriously thinking of stopping my meds (just the Effexor, not the Seroquel) but I've got the problem that they'll probably section me if I do... Nothing like humane rights for the mentally ill huh LOL
Shaitan - great post. I find the best thing ever to help with my problems is marijuana. I'm also a complete cynic about institutions etc so yes I agree that they just want their pockets lined. I've been screaming at my shrink for over 6 months now to change my meds or get me an occupational therapist, and all he does is increase the dosage. My main argument is that I'm still on the very first combination (anti-depressant & anti-psychotic) that I was ever put on. I personally think that Effexor is just a cheap drug and he wants to keep me on it for the price...
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| Thu May 25, 2006 10:13 am |
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a typical visit to my psychiatrist...
me: okay, look, the zoloft is NOT helping anymore. neither is the wellbutrin. i don't think that drugs, specifically these, are going to help anything.
him: mm...i see... well, let's increase your dosage of zoloft. have a nice day! *ushers me out the door and shuts it*
haha, exaggerated slightly, of course, but that's a visit in a nutshell. as mentioned earlier, i'm on zoloft and wellbutrin, and neither is really doing anything but giving me side effects. the wellbutrin makes me shake uncontrollably, especially when i'm tired or hungry, and gives me an irregular heartbeat. the zoloft is just... there. i've been on it for ten years, so i'm addicted to it, but it's not doing any good anymore, as my body has gotten so used to it.
then again, sometimes i'm afraid of living a life without depression and anxiety. it's all i've ever known... it's who i am... so what would i be without it? would i still be me? or would i be a completely different person?
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| Mon May 29, 2006 2:36 pm |
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I havn't tried drugs yet for my drepression are there any side-effects on taking them? 
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| Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:30 am |
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| Kahrie wrote: | | I havn't tried drugs yet for my drepression are there any side-effects on taking them? |
Yes there are side effect to all drugs Kahrie...the best thing to get over your depression is to find someone who will listen and hang on to your every word..and help you...thats what I hope to become once I get my degree...BM the shrink LOL 
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| Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:53 am |
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| Geri_Berri wrote: | | Kahrie wrote: | | I havn't tried drugs yet for my drepression are there any side-effects on taking them? |
Yes there are side effect to all drugs Kahrie...the best thing to get over your depression is to find someone who will listen and hang on to your every word..and help you...thats what I hope to become once I get my degree...BM the shrink LOL |
yeah my partner is pretty supportive about it sometimes it is a struggle :wallbash:
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| Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:19 am |
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OK I'm going to try to post this "picture" that is referred to as the "Trauma Wheel." I learned this in my fun stay at the hospital from an actual PhD, not an LPC. In the middle circle are "traumatic events" that happen to a child and cause them to develop a Dissociative Dissorder. The next circle shows some of the side effects that arrise from having a DD or even PTSD (at any age), and the "Outside Life" circle just refers to how the "disorders" bleed into your regular life. The problem is not actually the so called disorder, it is the issues that underline the disorder and if you deal with the issues, you no longer exhibit the symptoms. Psychotherapy would be so much more beneficial, so maybe some of you that are on meds that are not working (don't stop taking them, you'll probably go through way bad withdrawls) should look into a therapist rather than a shrink that fills his pockets by writing prescriptions. Just a thought.
(I tried but I couldn't make it any smaller) |
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| Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:49 am |
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I've been screaming for referral to a therapist for two years now. At first I was told the waiting list was six months. When I asked at six months I was told it was twelve months. At twelve months I was told it was eighteen months and so on... I'm still at least six months away from gaining the appointment 
My shrink kept postponing my appointments to the extent that today I had my first in over NINE MONTHS. I'm supposed to be seen every three months minimum. Hubby called Social Services yesterday regarding this and within half an hour the psych unit called back with an appointment first thing this morning. I saw someone I'd never seen before and within 10 minutes of the appointment starting he agreed to change my medication (which I've been asking them to do for over 18 months...) I start my new meds tonight. I'm now on Duloxetine (Cymbalta) 60mg at night - the same class as Venlefaxine but newer and improved - one bonus is I can change straight over and won't have any nasty withdrawal symptoms. I'll keep you all informed as to how it goes. Oh and my anti-psychotics have been doubled. 100mg of Quetiapine (Seroquel) twice daily instead of 50mg.
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